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Wierd Photos again nedds to be deletedEdit

Tav uploaded some wierd stuff again in this wiki delete it again and warn him also so no one can upload some real life deaths again!Deweyriley 06:18, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

User Tav180 uploaded that photos just like i did it.Telmen Temkka 09:19, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Delete them.Telmen Temkka 09:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

  • Relax. They're gone. I was only out of town for one day. No need to freak out just because I wasn't here and couldn't edit or delete anything. Ggjk 13:47, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

FD6 opening disaster Edit

how abould for FD6 opening disaster chould be 9/11? what do you think?Teddybearlover 20:16, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

  • And have the public pissed at you for making reference to 9/11, because it was 9/11? No. I already heard that some people didn't enjoy the small reference in the third film; they even cut that part out on TV. I'm pretty sure making a Final Destination film about it won't end well. Ggjk 22:53, December 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • sorry about that. that idea came to me form youtube.Teddybearlover 17:23, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Giggles really made me freak out thoughEdit

this user giggles she uploaded some japanese pictures and she says that the picture had been gegged is her brother i don't even know if she's she or somethin'

just see her profile page giggles099!!!!Deweyriley 11:37, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

  • Stop yelling. It's gone now. Ggjk 12:55, December 8, 2011 (UTC)
  • make it a train crash theirs a malfuntion with the control panel and their on a train brige and it collapeses the back of the train pulling the train and the train falls and explodes

Another Disrespectful PhotoEdit

Please delete this and warn user Chicken786 Deweyriley 02:06, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

  • Oh yay, the troll came back. The photo and user are gone now. Ggjk 05:01, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Please removed user named Aila Marie whatsoever.,Edit

PLease remove the comments in this images category

and please block this user named Aila Marie who keeps bugging everyone this user Thanks

NadiaMonroy 15:00, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

  • Unfortunately, being "annoying" is not a good enough reason to have someone banned. If he or she starts messing with the actual articles, that's a different story. But I have deleted the comments. Ggjk 16:58, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Admin Edit

Just wonderingg Ggjk, what does it take to become an administrator? TheNo1DestinationFan 06:07, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

  • You need permission from one of the Wiki staff members. Although I don't fully remember; I became an admin a while ago. I think Sysops (who have even more power than Admins) can automatically promote users to admins. But I'm not sure if there is a Sysop on this Wiki. Also, just know though that you can't become an admin just by asking someone to make you one. Ggjk 06:20, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

-_- Edit

And the message would be? TheNo1DestinationFan 23:59, January 15, 2012 (UTC)




  • I know. Trust me, I left a message on his talk page too about that. Hopefully now he'll get the message. Ggjk 12:45, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

RE: You're doing it AGAINEdit

But it's true! Final Destination 6 will be released in July 6th! Carol 01:03, March 8, 2012 (UTC) Cameron is here

It could happen. Carol 01:05, March 8, 2012 (UTC) Cameron is here

The produers might create them. Carol 01:11, March 8, 2012 (UTC) Cameron is here

Okay. Carol 01:16, March 8, 2012 (UTC) Cameron is here

Hey, can you do me a favor?Edit

Please block Cameron33268110. Actually, she ruined the timeline page today, by changing all the 2000 to 1999, and something else. Since we had a decision last week, and the years problem had already solved. Our decision is very clear, so I don't see how she can missed that, especially she was one of the active user here. Plus, this chick had put on her fanon stuff again recently, and I see you had gave her a final warning. And now, the question is, did this chick ever did anything good? As I don't see her benefit. It's becoming clear, that she was a trouble maker. After so many times you told her don't put on fanon stuff, do you still believe that she was listening to you? I guess you are tired of her too, huh? Sroczynski 08:37, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Final Destination in popular cultureEdit

Just asking why did you deleted the page Final Destination in popular culture since this wiki IS for not a website for discussing opinions and suggestions about a certain medium or brand but for establishing facts, analyzations, and theories concerning the medium. I do believe that such page should be created not for amusement but to inform fans and readers of the effects of Final Destination among the entertainment industry. Besides, I am not authorizing the page under myself but also to the whole FD Wiki. Yes, there wasn't enough links and categories to access the latter (and I do regret for not doing so), but can we restore it to its original outlook to enhance its content and to comply with this wiki? Please reply to my ammendment in order to straightening things out (although I'm not sure if I can provide an exact replica of the article, I have stored the images to my computer just in case). Thank you. FDJoshua22 16:35, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

  • It was marked for deletion, so I deleted it. Obviously someone out there had a problem with it. I don't know why; the same thing happened with the Final Destination 5 opening theme page. Go talk to the guy who marked it for deletion; his name's 15Browning. Lucky for you, I have the power to restore this page. But go talk to this user first, because I don't want you two repeatedly butting heads over this.

Thank you for clearing things out. Great wiki, though. FDJoshua22 06:26, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Favorite CharacterEdit

Hello! Nice to meet you. I have a question for you what's your favorite character from Final destination?

  • Kevin Fischer. He goes from being the annoying, rowdy character to actually taking things seriously. Yet he still knows how to be funny, and sometimes even snarky. Ggjk 03:43, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


Why do the photos from Final destination 5 keep getting removed?

Has anyone else noticed an abuse of the word irony on this site?

  • Hmm...I haven't noticed them being removed. Exactly what were these pictures of? Ggjk 15:58, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
  • The removal of all pictures from the opening of Final Destination 5. If they are low quality I understand. I was messaged about unnecessary edits to articles. Hmsartss8th 15:28 (Eastern) July 1. 2012.
    • Oh, those pictures. I suggest you leave a message asking the user who removed them and ask him or her why. Maybe you can put them back up afterwards. Ggjk 21:38, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
    • Sorry for bothering you constantly, but how do you remove galleries? I just added one to the Montages page, but I made an error and It came out corrupted. Hmsartss8th 19:08 (Eastern) July 1. 2012.
      • Easy. Just take out the file (or image) that you inserted into the article by using the backspace key. Or are you referring to deleting the gallery from this website completely? Ggjk 03:54, July 2, 2012 (UTC)
      • The gallery is not showing up on the edit page. Hmsartss8th 14:23 (Eastern) July 2. 2012
      • Nevermind, fixed it by manipulating the source code. Hmsartss8th 2:13 (Eastern) July 3. 2012

We've got a problemEdit

I'm sorry to disturb you, but we've got a problem about the timeline page AGAIN. There's a user whose name is "HarryPotterRules1", and he keeps changing the year 2005 to 2006, ONLY BECAUSE Kevin told Wendy that Flight 180 exploded six years ago in FD3. However, Jason's grave listed 2005, the students graduation books listed 2005, and the McKinley Tricentennial signs listed 2005. Kevin's words may not be true, because he carried the information from somewhere to the school and told Wendy, so if he got a wrong year or forgot the exact year on his way to the school is reasonable.

I've told "HarryPotterRules1" that he was wrong, but he still keep changing the year to 2006, and he said the year on Jason's grave was an error. I don't see how it's an error, when both Wendy and Kevin seemed fine with that. Moreover, Kevin even didn't mention the year 2006, he just said "six years ago". Also, the McKinley Tri-Centennial signs said McKinley was founded in 1705, and it's a 300 years celebration, so 1705+300=2005. To support this, both 1705 and 2005 appeared on the signs. I don't want to argue about this anymore, as it's clear that the correct year was 2005.

Beside this, "HarryPotterRules1" also believed Train 081 disaster was happened BEFORE Kimberly and Thomas's death, and he used Clear's words to support this(BTW, I don't remember Clear had said something like that), but as we all know there's already a newspaper reporting their death before Train 081 disaster happened, so he MUST BE wrong.

Furthermore, "HarryPotterRules1" had put a lot incorrect information on pages too, like he said Mrs. Corman was killed on 13th 2000, but we all know that on that day the news was reporting Tod's death, so it's clear that the day wasn't 13th 2000. He also put theories on pages, like he said William Bludworth was pretending a Homeless person in Final Destination: Dead Reckoning. In conclusion, this user is ridiculous, he ALWAYS put incorrect or unconfirmed information on pages, and we need to tell him this is not a playground.I think you can convince this user not to change the year anymore. Thanks. Sroczynski (talk) 10:45, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, I have noticed some of the recent changes. I left a message on his talk page, but seeing as how you probably told him what you just told me now, I didn't repeat it all again. I more or less gave him a warning; we'll see how he takes it. Ggjk (talk) 04:48, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Do I put my answer here, or do I start a new post on your wall? For now I'll put it here and move it if I have to, ok?

Right... Since you're one of the "high and mighty" here on the wiki, I won't yell... at you anyway. I never said that William Bludworth WAS the homeless man; I said it was "possible."; nor, for that matter did I ever state he lost his job. Death uses a disguise (an old african man) when he manifests on Earth, so WHY can't Bludworth use a disguise? Hmm? Hmm? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?!

Two: Alex's ticket in FD1 never gave a year; it gave the date (13 May) but no year; this means that Sam's ticket of 2000 is correct, yes? (Yes, it is, there's nothing to say otherwise - and that's not what our quarrel is about) so this means FD2 takes place in 2001 (again, we're not quarelling about that)

Now, on the pages of KImberly Corman AND Thomas Burke it says this "There is inconsistency in the timeline of events as described by this article. It says they were both the last survivors of the pile-up that happened three years ago. Kevin specifically said that the Flight 180 premonition happened six years ago, and in Final Destination 2, the pile-up happened on the exact day that marked a year since the Flight 180 premonition. Unless the newspaper article is outdated in the film, as it was covering a homeless man, this creates an error in the timeline." which also leads into my NEXT point.

Kevin says "six years" and, as we've established, FD5 and 1 are in 2000; this places FD3 in 2006; as the information above shows, Kimberly and Thomas were the last survivors of the pile-up. We know, for a start, that it DIDN'T happen three years AFTER FD2 and that "three years" is an error; But, given that FD2 is one year after FD1 (which is in 2000) and Kimberly and Thomas died FIVE YEARS after FD2 this makes their death dates November 2006, shortly before or after (or during) the crash of Train 081. Clear also says, when she and the others are in the car in FD2 that the reason Death is going backwards is to seal the rift made by their survival. Why would Death kill Kimberly and Thomas and then wait another year before killing off Wendy, Julie, Kevin and the others on the train? He wouldn't; we've seen by the films that Death never waits that long at all. This leads credence to the fact that they died AT THE SAME TIME (Or shortly after, as, again, using Clear's words; their deaths being last would seal the rift created by their survival); given that they died five years after 2001 this makes their dates of death 2006 and shortly after the Train 081 derailment which must for everything to make sense, take place in 2006. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 00:33, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

  • Even if everything you're saying is true, the date 2005 was spotted multiple times in FD3, even on Jason's grave. While your logic makes sense, the dates that actually appear in the movie contradict what you say. ...Is it possible that the filmmakers screwed up the dates, and made it so that FD3 could take place in either 2005 or 2006? Could it be possible that, in some ways, both of you are correct for your own reasons? Ggjk (talk) 04:10, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'm sorry to interrupt, but I don't think the words he said make sense. You can see, he said Kimberly and Thomas died "shortly before or after (or during) the crash of Train 081" AGAIN, and this is very stupid, because a newspaper reporting their death was already EXISTED before the crash of Train 081! Kimberly and Thomas at least died a day before Wendy, and that's not shortly before, after, or even during! His theories didn't make any sense, and everything he said wasn't true. Also, the official never stated that Kimberly and Thomas died 5 years after the pile-up. We know the 3 years date on the newspaper was incorrect, but no one ever confirmed the correct year, so 5 years may not be true either. If FD3 took place in 2005, then I guess Kimberly and Thomas were killed 4.5 years(from 13.05.2001 to 11.2005) after the pile-up. Finally, I want to say his words were too subjective. He said "Why would Death kill Kimberly and Thomas and then wait another year before killing off Wendy, Julie, Kevin and the others on the train? He wouldn't; we've seen by the films that Death never waits that long at all." in the above comment, but the question is, why can't Death waits that long? Just because the movie didn't shown that? Sam didn't appear in FD1, but is that mean he wasn't exist? Don't believe his words, they weren't true and didn't make sense. Sroczynski (talk) 08:30, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
      • I don't understand how Kimberly and Thomas dying one day before the Train 081 crash isn't shortly before. One day between two people dying and a train accident happening doesn't seem all that long. :/ At this point it just seems like the two of you are having a pissing contest and you're trying to drag me into it. Some of what HarryPotterRules is saying is highly probable, and some of what you're saying is also highly probable. But neither of you seem to want to accept that fact, or at the very least, want to come to some agreement. Even now you've blatantly ignored what I said about the filmmakers screwing up the dates. It is very possible that both of you are right for your own reasons. But it just seems like you want me to agree with you so you can tell HarryPotterRules "Well, the admin said I'm right, so you're wrong; the date's 2005." And vice versa; HarryPotterRules wants me to agree with him so he can tell you "Well, the admin said I'm right, so you're wrong; the date's 2006." Is there no way that the two of you can at least agree on a date and try to piece out what is fact and what's an error? Again, from where I'm standing, it just seems like the filmmakers messed up the timeline. Ggjk (talk) 13:00, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
        • You're right, I'm dragging you to my side, because I'm surprise that you think some of his words were "highly probable". I agree that the filmmakers messed up the timeline, but the fact is we can't just say the timeline was totally screwed up in FD3 on the timeline page, and we can't put both 2005 and 2006 on the page, because it'll be extremely messy. What we can do, is put either 2005 or 2006, then use references to explain why it was that year, and why it wasn't. We can say the filmmakers messed up the timeline on the page, but it should be put on the references or trivia section. We need to solve this problem, and all we need are evidences, not theories. Just like the last time, when we were arguing about the year 1999 and 2000, each side also had their own evidences to support, but 2000 had more evidences than 1999, and more users voted for 2000, so our final decision was 2000, then the problem solved. I just don't understand why can't we use the same method to solve this problem. Sroczynski (talk) 15:12, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • Right. 1) There is NO indication ANYWHERE that the newspaper existed before Train 081 derailed. It was on a homeless man in the bonus features! How do we know that the Homeless man is from 2050 (I know that dates miles off, but I'm using it as an example)? We don't; the man could be from 2006 for all we know. As for Kimberly and Burke well, if you actually WATCHED FD2 you'll see that Clear says that Death goes backwards to (and I'm paraphrasing here) "seal the rift created by the survival of the Flight 180 survivors and the Route 23 Pile Up survivors" so, to seal the rift Thomas and Kimberly would either die shortly before train 081 crashed, during the crash (as Clear did in fd2 because Kimberly and Burke had both already been skipped) or after it, as it would mean that Death killed off the Devil's Flight pile-up survivors and then killed off the rest of the Route 23 survivors too. As for the five years of Kimberly and Burke if you USED YOUR BRAINS and looked on their pages you would see in the trivia section it says that they died "FIVE YEARS" after the route 23 pile-up. The pile up was in 2001, so they died in 2006. That is the other reason why I say FD3 IS set in 2006. As for Sam not appearing in FD1, he does actually appear (of course, we didn't know it was him at the time) as, in Alex's vision, a male can be seen holding someone who is hanging out of the plane; this, presumably, is Sam and Molly. Death never waits long; Tod, the first survivor of Flight 180, died a month after, Evan, the first survivors of Route 23, died a DAY after and Death picked off the people who survived Devil's flgith rather quickly, did it not? I am willing to come to an agreements, but by Kevin's words (which, as you have BOTH admitted, are said in the film) FD3 takes place in 2006; as well as the trivia page on Kimberly and Burke both saying that they were killed "FIVE YEARS" after Brian Gibbons died in 2001, I do believe that 2006 (or late 05 - early 06) is the date of the fiilm. By the way, slightly off topic, but on Terry Chaney's page it gives a birthdate; there was no birthdate mentioned in the film... so where did it come from?HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 15:09, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
      • What kind of movie did you watched?! Just because the scenes were separated, then you think the homeless man scene was took place in the future, and then the next scene backed to the present? This whole thing is stupid! There's NO indication ANYWHERE that the homeless man scene was took place in the future, and if it's true, then why they never stated that in the movie?! Furthermore, that's not what Clear mean when she said that, you mistook the meaning of her words. Also, the five years on pages WERE ADDED BY THIS WIKIA'S USERS. As I asked you before, if you could find any sources to proof that the five years was ever confirmed by the official, then I will shut up. But you need to know, the five years maybe being put when everyone on this wikia still think FD1 took place in 1999, and after everything was changed from 1999 to 2000, nobody noticed the five years needed to be change. Sroczynski (talk) 15:31, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • Given that the homeless man's newspaper says "Three years" (which we definitely KNOW is wrong; agreed?), it's either an error in the paper, or the man is from the future, which is WHY there is an error of the timeline. It was never stated in the movie because the homeless man, as YOU should know is from bonus features. I understood what Clear meant. Death was going backwards (e.g. Evan, Tim, Nora, Kat, Rory, Thomas, Kimberly, Clear) because Clear was the last survivor of Flight 180; going backwards would seal off the rift created by Clear's survival (which, thanks to Alex getting them all off Flight 180) is directly related to their survival, as all the people (excluding Tim and Nora) from FD2 all witnessed/were involved (In Kat's case, as she was on the but that his Terry) in the deaths of the Flight 180 victims. Given that the "Five years" was put on when everyone THOUGHT (incorrectly, as FD5 proved them wrong) that it all took place in 1999, why should a year be shaved off for the film's moving? If the film moves back to 2000, there's not a year missing, the date is just shifted back, which is why I said; FD1 (and 5) take place in 2000, FD2 in 2001 (and thus, as Burke and Kimberly died in "five years" after; their deaths are in 2006) which places FD3 in 2006 (as Kevin says "Six years") and there's no quarrel about the date of FD4 which is set in Jan 2009 (Though... where did that date come from? I'm not quarelling, I'd just like to know. And also, you didn't answer the question about the date on Terry's page. Where did her birth year come from?) HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 15:50, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
      • Craig Perry stated that the newspaper had a couple of errors, because it was written by his assistant. He stated this on facebook, if you're interested to look for it, add him as your friend and track down his record. So, the newspaper had errors, and not the homeless man scene took place from the future! And if you watch the movie carefully, you can see the scene obviously took place before the crash of Train 081, and the scene wasn't separated with other scenes at all. This at least proofed both Kimberly and Thomas killed before the crash of Train 081, and proofed you were wrong with what Clear said in FD2. Sroczynski (talk) 16:01, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
      • The reason why Death went backward in FD2, was because FD1's survivors affected the original death of FD2's survivors, and saved them secretly, so that's the "rift" Clear said. Death needed to "seal the rift", so Death went backward in FD2. However, FD3's survivors didn't have any relation with FD2's survivors, so the survivors died when their times came. Also, Death killed their victims when it's their time to died, so Clear's words had NOTHING to do with Kimberly and Thomas's death. Clear killed during FD2, was because she was the only one who still alive on the Flight 180 survivors list, and Death could kill her whenever he want, because if she was skip, the next one was still be her. Her death had NOTHING to do with her words either, and both Kimberly and Thomas didn't need to died during the crash of Train 081. Sroczynski (talk) 15:43, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
        • We should really set up an email alert thing on here (I rarely know when you have replied! Can someone get on it?); Exactly, Death went backwards to seal the Rift; Clear should have been last (after Kimberly and Thomas) but they both skipped their proper times (Kimberly on the Route 23, when Burke pulled her away) and Burke when Rory died (he ducked to avoid the tree and missed being sliced by the fence) so Clear came next. But, you see, Kimberly and Thomas's survival created the same problem in FD3; Kimberly and Thomas being alive would create the same rift as Clear being alive did. Death would have to kill off the survivors in FD 3, then move on and kill Kimberly and Burke to seal the first created by THEIR survival, which means they HAD to have died AFTER or during the derailment, (as Wendy had been skipped already) for the rift to be sealed on their deaths. I will find Craig Perry on Facebook and ask HIM to confirm the dates, ok? Then, I will put up a picture here and if I am proved right, I expect you to kiss my feet and beg for forgiveness, which, with my current mood, may be granted. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:28, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
        • On second thoughts, could one of you find his facebook page for me? I have about 400 Craig Perry's that come up on my Facebook and I have no idea which one is him. Thanks! HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:32, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
          • How many time do I need to explain?! Clear's death HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FD2'S SURVIVORS LIST. Clear was on the Flight 180's survivors list, and she was the only one left in FD2, so Death continued to kill her whenever he wanted. In the same time, FD2's survivors died one by one, and THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH CLEAR'S DEATH. Sroczynski (talk) 16:33, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
                  • For the love of Jesu! Eugene, in the car states "If you hadn't gotten off the plane then none of us would be here" - this is WHY death is going backwards. Clear even says it herself in reply; she says it's to seal the rift created by the survivors of Flight 180 which is why she should have been last (But Burke and Kimberly were skipped and shoved on the list after her); this "rift" is then created AGAIN, by Burke and Kimberly's survival. They die during the events of FD3 agreed? They die in the same year (whatever year it is) and month (as confirmed by the Timeline on THIS WIKI) as Wendy, Julie and Kevin, which places it in November. Killing off Julie, then Kevin, then Wendy would lead Death straight on to kill Kimberly and Burke, thus, sealing the rift again, see?. On a side note, does anyone HAVE Craig Perry's facebook? I can't find it! HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
                    • Seal the rift means the FD1's survivors affected the original death of the FD2's survivors, not means FD1's survivors got off the plane! Sroczynski (talk) 16:47, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • It's only BECAUSE of the flight 180 people getting off of the plane in the first place that allows them to BE alive; it goes backwards along the list (Kimberly's friends in the truck, Evan, Tim, Nora, Kat, Eugene, Clear, Kimberly, Thomas) because of that; Clear SHOULD have been last, but Kimberly (who should have died with her friends in the SUV) was pulled away by Burke and skipped, and Burke (who should have been trisected by the fence that killed Rory) ducked to avoid a falling tree and thus escaped his death; he was then replaced by Kimberly, who died in the lake and came back to life again, thus skipping her, which is why Clear died with Eugene. The same rift however, that causes Death to go backwards, is still active as Kimberly and Burke survive; they die in the same month and year as the Train 081 crash; it should, theoretically be Ashley, then Ashlyn, then Frankie, Lewis, Ian (who was skipped), Erin, Julie (who was skipped), Kevin, Wendy. Because Ian was skipped, he died after Erin and before Wendy, Julie and Kevin; then Julie died on the train, then Kevin, then Wendy. Logic dictates that Death would then take the last remaining survivors, in this case Kimberly and Burke, and kill them off to seal the rift and put everything back into line, until FD4, at least.HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 16:59, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • Totally bullshit. The movies never had something like that, you made that up?! FD1's survivors affected FD2's survivors, and saved FD2's survivors secretly, so Death went backward in FD2, that's it, and there's nothing more. Thomas never should died in the farm, where the hell you got that idea?! It wasn't his turn yet! And Kimberly, she drove the van to the lake was not work, because she had visions throughout the movies that she would do that, and that means Death had planned she would drive the van into the lake at the beginning. She just followed Death's plan to "suicide", and everything aren't like what you said.Sroczynski (talk) 17:10, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Thomas, if you actually WATCH the film, ducks when the tree at the farm falls; as he does that, the fence explodes, goes flying through the air and trisects Rory; if Thomas had never ducked, HE would have been sliced by the fence. Death planned she would drive the van into the lake, yes, but SHE thought it would beat death - it didn't, and the rift that Clear mentioned continued; Thomas and Kimberly were alive, so the rift couldn't have closed even after the death of the Devil's Flight survivors. Death went backwards in FD2 because, again if you watch the film, in the scene in Kat's car where they all recount the deaths they've already skipped, Clear reveals why it's going backwards, it's because the Flight 180 survivors survived; Clear should have been last, to "seal" the rift created by her survival, but as I explained above, she wasn't last because Burke and Kimberly skipped prior deaths before she died. The same rift that should have been sealed by Clear's death (as she was last in line, after all the survivors of Route 23) wasn't sealed, because Burke and Kimberly survived. That is why I said they died about the same time; Death would kill off the Devil's Flight survivors and then kill of Kimberly and Burke, who, with their death, would seal the rift and stick everything back in order - and make Death satisfied. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 17:34, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
    • How could it be like that?! I don't see that was what Clear's words mean. If you indeed watched the movie(which I don't believe), you won't say anything like that. It's not Thomas's turn yet, why the hell he would kill in the farm? Why can't he was supposed to do that?! Sroczynski (talk) 17:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Let's get straight. Kevin wasn't wrong with the six years, the one who got wrong were the filmmakers. Until FD5 arrived, people thought that FD1 took place in 1999, and FD2 took place in 2000, so Kevin's word was right at that time, and FD3 was happened six years after FD1, which means FD3 took place in 2005. However, FD5 shown the year 2000, which lead us to believe FD2 was actually took place in 2001. I don't know why the filmmakers changed the year from 1999 to 2000, but if you watch FD1 carefully, there's some clues told us that the movie took place in 2000, and there's no canon clue told us that it took place in 1999, so the filmmakers changed the year from 1999 to 2000 was totally fine. But in FD3, there's so many 2005 appeared throughout the movie, so the filmmakers couldn't change the year to 2006. The only reasonable result was Kevin got a wrong year. I know he wasn't wrong at all, but beside this we can't find anything that reasonable to explain the timeline. Understand? Saying Kevin got a wrong year was the only reasonable result, and we know it's all the filmmakers fault. Sroczynski (talk) 17:31, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure the timeline was ever in doubt; in FD2 (which was released BEFORE the problems with FD2) Isabella's van had 5/13/2001 on the number plate, placing it in 2001 even back then, which means that FD1 was ALWAYS set in 2000, and FD3, by Kevin's words, was set in 2006; FD4, as there's no trouble in the Timeline with that (thankfully) is set in 2009. I have watched the movie; that's what Clear's words mean - she'd be the last and Death'd go backwards, Evan, Tim, Nora, Kat, Eugene, Thomas, Kimberly, Clear, to kill them off, but Thomas and Kimberly were skipped so Clear, being the only one left (along with Eugene, who's turn it was anyway) went next; Thomas and Kimberly, being alive, creates the same problem - in FD3 - that Clear created in FD2; the rift, due to their survival, was still open, so they'd have to die AFTER Train 081 derailed to close the rift. If you watch the scene (I do believe it;s on Youtube) you can see that Burke notices the falling tree and ducks; the exploding fence flies through the air - RIGHT WHERE HE WAS - and then slices Rory to bits; whatever the case it still counted as a skipped death for Thomas. HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 17:52, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
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2005 proof 4
2005 proof 5

Facing these evidences, I don't understand why you could still be so stubborn, and saying the movie was took place in 2006! Do you want to tell me that these weren't years, and they were actually codes?! Or you want to tell me that they got a wrong year AT THE SAME TIME WITH EVERYBODY FINED WITH THAT?! I don't care how you think about the Death design anymore, even if you think Thomas can skipped himself when it's even not his turn to die. All I care is whatever FD3 took place in 2005 or 2006! Sroczynski (talk) 18:01, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

  • I think you need to stick those pictures in another place (they interfere with the comment below this argument.) Also, you assume that 1705 means "January 1st 1705"; it could have been founded on the very last day of 1705, and then the three hundredth anniversary would be the last day of 2005, making Kevin correct (as it's after the celebrations that he looks up the information). If we go with that, we can end the argument, as I'm sick of it now; I've given my evidence, and you've given yours, and neither will back down, so let's just END IT, and I'll be content to know that we ended in a draw. Ok?
    • Funny, very funny. How could McKinley was founded on the very last day of 1705, when 5 months after the celebration was November?! Did you watched FD3 carefully?! Or do you mean McKinley was founded in December, and they celebrated 6 months before it? Or do you want to tell me that the "5 months later" subtitle was totally wrong?! And I think I need to tell you again, what you given weren't evidences, they were your OWN THEORIES. You used Clear's words to support you, but actually after reading her words, different people can get different meaning, just like what you think her words mean wasn't as same as what I think it means. So, it can't proof anything. But what I given was real evidences, will you seeing the 2005 in the picture and tell me that the 2005 means 2006?! You won't, because you can't beat these evidences. And now, my pictures won't interfere with the comment below this argument anymore.Sroczynski (talk) 18:25, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
  • Do you have brains? I do assume so, since you are using a computer. When a place is founded there is nothing there. It would take at least six months to get some dwellings for people to live in set up, which is why the celebrations is in June - that's when PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARRIVED and could celebrate (this would make the "Five months later" correct, see, and would also make Jason's grave correct.) People can take Clear's words a different way, but, if they do, then they are wrong. Clear clearly explained the rift and why it happened. I'm glad to see the pictures have been fixed (it'll avoid people nagging about the page looking messy). Now, I've asked, POLITELY, for this argument to end. Do not make me start swearing! End this argument now, in the knowledge that it is a draw and that we'll agree to disagree, because you're a stubborn ass, and so am I, and we'll never agree on an actual date. End this argument, NOW, or I will get Ggjk to end it for me BY BLOCKING YOU! UNDERSTAND?! HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 18:41, July 20, 2012 (UTC)




  • While I do appreciate you alerting me about this troll, I have to advise you not to stoop to his level. In the future, if you spot anymore trolls, all you need to do is leave a message on my talk page. There is no reason why you should troll them back, because all you're doing is giving him or her what she wants. As for this user, he's gone now, and I'll worry about the rest of his comments when I'm more awake tomorrow morning. Ggjk (talk) 05:22, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

  • It's all gone now. Ggjk (talk) 13:09, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Someone need your helpEdit

A new user "FinalDestinationLover" said he had something to ask you, but your talk page is blocked, so he couldn't leave any message. He asked me for help, so I guess I can help him by telling you this. Sroczynski (talk) 02:29, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hi I just need to know how to edit pages, because it still says "View Source" at the top.

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 07:42, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Ggjk! I appreciate it. See ya.

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 13:34, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Catergories Edit

Sorry Ggjik it won't happen again.

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 15:35, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Comment Edit


FinalDestinationLover (talk) 14:22, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Badges Edit

I need your help with something. Whenever I view someone else's profile, it says the badges that I've got in stead of the ones they've got.

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 17:08, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

  • That's odd. Did you edit any of the settings on your account? Ggjk (talk) 12:44, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Not really. It just does it for some reason.

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 15:01, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

  • What do you mean by "not really"? It's possible that something in your settings was changed. I'm not entirely sure; check and see just in case. Ggjk (talk) 16:52, October 11, 2012 (UTC)


FinalDestinationLover (talk) 14:32, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed it:)

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 18:25, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Can you help someone? Edit

A new user is on the wiki, finaldestinationlover1. I know him. He's my friend in real life. Unfortunately, he knows nothing about wikis or anything. So can you please tell him how everything works?

  • I will once I have some spare time. Ggjk (talk) 16:37, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! This is his page

FinalDestinationLover (talk) 16:59, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

*/What were you thinking?*/ Edit

Why did deleted the page I have done? Who you think you are? For me, you are a son of a bitch!

Wendy Christensen (talk) 13:17, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

  • The pages weren't necessary. All of the characters dealing with the novels and movies have been properly categorized; anyone who wants to see them can just browse the categories and then click on the appropriate page. Plus the survivors have already been listed for whatever movie/book they come from. Keep in mind, I did leave a message on your talk page asking if the pages were necessary. You never replied. Ggjk (talk) 14:34, January 11, 2013 (UTC)



I love Ian McKinley <3 <3 :)

Why Die Sam Lawton in Final Destination 5 Edit

I can not understand why Sam died in Flight 180.

Because: Sam Killed Peter Who Killed Agent Jim Block.(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 12:33, February 3, 2014 (UTC))

Any news? Edit

Hi man, how are you? 

Anyways I wanted to ask you are there any official news about Final Destination 6 since i didn't find anything? And I have bit of a problem looking at Wendy, Julie and Kevin pages couse it says that they are all dead( I know what Craig Perry said and frankly I don't give a fuck) , but Bludworths page doesn't say anything (and we all know he has been on that train)  so i ask you can you change that untill there is a canon movie conformation in next installments. 

                                                                                                                                                                              Already thankful The Scarecrow 081 (talk) 13:42, February 5, 2014 (UTC)the Scarecrow 081

  • Until we find out more information, the characters will remain as deceased. The only bit of information we know (other than Craig Perry) is that when Nick and Lori Googled about previous accidents, Nick said that the survivors saved themselves, but then they died. It's possible he was referring to Wendy, Julie and Kevin as well. But if we find out more information, we'll change it. As for the sixth movie...I don't know. They said they started filming it and that it'll come out sometime this year, but I doubt it. :/ I doubt it'll take place in the 12th century though, judging by that "official" trailer on YouTube that has a blatant scene from the third Pirates of the Caribbean movie thrown into it. Ggjk (talk) 06:27, February 7, 2014 (UTC)
  • O.K. man but I don't think they'll do that 12th century idea if they have any respect for fans and if they sometimes check out some of poles on this Wikia (so far I see that Wendy and Kevin are fans favourites) and doubt that it will have good reception with fans (Final Destination is built to be a teen movie, not Game of Thrones or Pirates of Caribbean). And thanks for answer.     The Scarecrow 081 (talk) 09:50, February 7, 2014 (UTC)the Scarecrow 081


on Cynthia_Daniels it says as a sign 45*4=180, is that confirmed? otherwise it seems more like numberology which is just making  things up unsubstantiated.

The Emperor Zelos 15:17, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

  • Hmm, yeah, that sounds like kind of a stretch now that I think about it. Sometimes people look for even the tiniest thing that could be considered a clue and overthink it. But this doesn't sound like a valid clue, so I'll change it. Ggjk (talk) 06:19, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

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